In Reply to: Re: Old saying (in Irish), origionates in England posted by Dia agus Muire Linn on November 14, 2005 at 23:45:45:

"English dinner parties"? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. The Mayo farm immigrants who said it here in New York (and it was a deeply sad expression, nothing along the lines of sympathy for football failures) said it because they themselves had seen the death and devastation done to Mayo by the famine.